Your author’s 11 year-old, like many her age, has become not just a purveyor of various games on Roblox but has also written code for two games. She and her younger sister watched with grave disapproval as their father managed to suffer calamitous, early, and presumably avoidable deaths attempting to navigate the hellish obstacle courses she had designed. Looking to redeem my daughters’ perceived confidence in me, I made the catastrophic decision to show her the “game daddy plays all day in his office.”

Having secured her an app with stock prices, given her a brief primary on how stocks are not just slips of paper but also interests in real companies, her stock-picking began[1]. “This is easy dad,” she quipped on a recent Friday. Her method is to find the stocks at the top of the list with green arrows….and pencil them down as picks. If they go down a few days in a row, she sells them. Her results rival the best managers of our time. In this age of “helicopter parenting,” where parents often herald the success of children, I share this story to show my intellectual honesty: my 11-year-old will be wrong!

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Many of us here at Kailash sport gray hair and have proven ourselves no match for the rip-roaring rise of tech-heavy index funds to even more concentrated specialty ETFs. While “growth” and “value” have traded blows for the majority of the post-2010 period, Kailash has documented, in Fig. 2 of this paper and Fig. 1 of this paper, that the ballistic rise of many highly speculative firms, such as clean technology stocks, occurred in the years since 2017. Today Kailash believes market participants are standing on a dangerous precipice. Below we have provided a list and some simple salient fundamentals of all the Tech stocks trading over 33x Price to Sales. Why 33x? More on that in a moment.

The list is ordered from most to least expensive. These firms trade at utterly ghastly multiples. Even more remarkable is that excluding three firms, every one of these companies loses money and is issuing stock (negative shareholder yield) to fill the hole!

Why 33x Sales?

As documented in our historically informed brief on the catastrophic folly of investing in companies trading at 10x price to sales, massive multiples like this are a recipe for disaster. Kailash decided to jump to 33x sales after reading a brief but brilliant missive[2] by Jamie Powell in the Financial Times riffing off Keubiko[3]. In it, he documents Cisco’s meteoric 236% rise into the peak of the internet bubble “…backed by a crazed-enthusiasm for the technological shifts brought about by the internet. The Thesis was solid: as a provider of networking equipment for both telecom players and other businesses, Cisco was the shovel-seller in a dot com gold rush. What could go wrong?”

You may not have noticed but the last name on the list above was CISCO – and the fundamentals and valuations were as of MARCH 2000. The list above is merely “all the tech stocks that are MORE expensive than 2000 at its peak.” Look at the list again. What is remarkable is that Cisco is the CHEAPEST of that group, and it also had the second-best margins in the group. Compared to Cisco, the rest of the stocks listed above have the fundamental optics of a burning dumpster fire.

With hindsight, investors’ faith in the company’s fundamental prospects proved to be well placed. As documented by Powell, over the ensuing 21 years, Cisco would see its profits quintupled and the company averaging a 17% ROE. Similar to our analog between Carvana today and Akami in 1999, even if you had perfect foresight to know that Cisco would be a massive growth compounding engine, investing in the stock was a disaster. After suffering an -80% decline, you had to hang on for 21 years to get your money back.

Kailash urges investors to contemplate the brutal and unforgiving arithmetic lesson in the charts above.


  1. As a reminder for our Financial Advisors: our models are available on a continuous basis, and most have been in production for over a decade.  If you are looking for simple, concentrated, low turnover, and tax efficient model portfolios we would like to talk with you.  KCR also offers a wide range of easy-to-use but sophisticated tools.  Our toolkits can help identify mispriced stocks with the best and worst risk/reward characteristics, estimate a stock’s duration and warn you when a company is engaging in low-quality accounting. Over the last 12 years, KCR has built and offers time-tested and class-leading products built by experienced and proven money managers for fixed to low prices.
  2. Kailash Capital’s sister company, L2 Asset Management, runs market neutral, long/short, large-cap, and mid-cap long-only portfolios with a value and quality bias.  L2 employs a highly disciplined investment process characterized by moderate concentration, low turnover, high tax efficiency, and low fees. While nobody can predict the future, we believe the recent resurgence in risk-adjusted returns seen across all products is the beginning of what may be a long period where speculation is punished, and prudence and patience rewarded.
The topics discussed in this article are aimed at seasoned professionals, as such, we have included some extra reading for anyone seeking out more information related to the topics above.


[1] For our compliance officer: theoretical paper portfolio only!!![2] If you are not a paid-up subscriber to the Financial Times you truly are missing out



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March 17, 2021 |

Categories: Quick Takes

March 17, 2021

Categories: Quick Takes

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